In this talk, we invited two curators, from Europe and Asia who are dedicated to promote documentaries at the edge of turmoil, to start a conversation between Ukraine and Taiwan. Yuliia Kovalenko and Wood Lin will not only share their experience in making documentaries, but also the local development of documentaries, festival curation, the importance of documentaries and difficulties they are facing in this ever-turbulent era. The talk will also give insight to the situation in Ukraine and Taiwan, as well as the future of the documentary industry and the mission of curators. Yuliia Kovalenko is a film critic and programmer at Docudays UA International Human Rights Documentary Film Festival in Kyiv. She has taught at various universities in Ukraine.She also served as a program director at the independent movie theatre ‘Inotheatre’ in Odesa, where she hosted among others a program of Ukrainian art cinema titled ‘We Are Here’. Meanwhile, her articles have been published in Ukrainian and international journals. Wood Lin received his MA from the Graduate Institute of Sound and Image Studies at Tainan National University of the Arts. He is a film critic and a festival organiser,specialising in documentaries, , and has participated in juries at many international film festivals. Now he serves as programme director of Taiwan International Documentary Festival (TIDF) and the programme advisor of International Documentary Festival Amsterdam (IDFA).